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 Webbit (original poster member #84517) posted at 9:54 PM on Sunday, May 11th, 2025

Yesterday was Mothers Day and we hosted WH family, 13 people all up including kids and toddlers.

It’s during events like this I can see how the family dynamic my WH has come from has made him the person he is.

I had made a post on FB earlier in the day calling out wonderful, inspirational women in my life who have shaped and guided me in life. Anyways when my MIL comes into my home where I’ve set a beautiful table, had her gift all wrapped ready to go and me busily cooking whilst getting her a drink she says’I saw your FB post today, you forgot me’. I was gobsmacked. I have no relationship with this woman other than the fact I married one of her sons. The only time we see her is if I organise it. Her other adult kids barely wished her a happy Mother’s Day and I’m the one she questions?

Then my SIL’s toddler who was running crazily through the house (as toddlers do) came out with a disposable razor (capped) in her mouth as she must have made her way into our bathroom. It startled me and I kind of yelled ‘she has a razor’ which startled the little one. Then I got chastised by my SIL for scaring her.

This family is full of selfish entitled arseholes who lack basic social politeness and honestly only think of themselves. No wonder my husband is the way he is. But you can see how much he wants to change, you can see how now he gets annoyed with his family (he cooked the bbq outside on his own while his brothers all just sat on their buns inside. He apologised to me for his mum but it wasn’t his fault, but I’m just glad he can finally start to see that all their behaviours are just plain rude. And TBH if my son didn’t want to see his cousins I think I would call it quits on his family.

But then again I just wasn’t raised that way!

[This message edited by Webbit at 9:58 PM, Sunday, May 11th]

Webbit

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jb3199 ( member #27673) posted at 11:54 PM on Sunday, May 11th, 2025

but I’m just glad he can finally start to see that all their behaviours are just plain rude.

I wouldn't even call it rude. I'd call it toxic. And good for your WH wanting to change from that. It takes a lot of self recognition to really understand that a lifetime of behaviors and patterns that you were taught are wrong. It'll become more and more clear if he continues on this path.

BH-50s
WW-50s
2 boys
Married over 30yrs.

All work and no play has just cost me my wife--Gary PuckettD-Day(s): EnoughAccepting that I can/may end this marriage 7/2/14

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BluerThanBlue ( member #74855) posted at 3:30 PM on Monday, May 12th, 2025

Do you need host these assholes for holidays?

As someone who had in-laws from the deepest depths of Hell, my advice to you is to not host if you can avoid it. It will be a lot of hard work and they will punish you for something stupid anyway.

If your kids want to spend time with their cousins, then put the onus on your husband to plan visits and playdates with them.

BW, 40s

Divorced WH in 2015; now happily remarried

I edit my comments a lot for spelling, grammar, typos, etc.

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Shehawk ( member #68741) posted at 6:44 PM on Monday, May 12th, 2025

"As someone who had in-laws from the deepest depths of Hell, my advice to you is to not host if you can avoid it."

I have been following this advice and it is life changing.

I personally have come to the conclusion that I choose to associate with people who are reciprocal, kind, generous, self reflective.


I think my giving and forgiving nature made it more like I would end up with someone who would cheat on me. Sadly. So this is part of my healing process.

I find being around "takers" and self centered people exhausting and draining. We have had a few experiences where F and I have decided to stop doing things like invite certain people to get togethers when they have shown us who they are by their actions and we don’t feel good about what we are seeing.

Everyone has their limits. Ours have recently included not associating with:

—people who order at the top of the menu every single time they know we are paying the bill (double and triple what other people are ordering) and they never offer to pay when we go out. They do this knowing I am on a limited budget due to divorce debt.

-people who act selfishly at the frequent parties and holidays we used to host. (Example was when there were 3 dozen gluten free wings at a get together for less than 6 people along with lots of other foods, the person not being invited anymore doesn’t need gluten free, and they just kept eating those specific wings until the wings were basically gone just because they could—leaving the 2 gluten-free needing people with nothing). Repeat that with the 2 gluten free pizzas we had prepared. They thought they "tasted better" than the regular ones. Of course they never offer to help, never bring or contribute anything, demand there be special foods for themselves, never invite people over to their place…you get the picture.

I always say your mileage may vary. I am not posting to debate whether I should have ordered at least a dozen or more gluten free wings per person out of self-defense. There was more than enough and varied enough food for no one to need to be hungry and to accommodate all known dietary needs and preferences. Everyone was aware there were 2 people with actual wheat allergies. All that would have been needed was for a certain person to have some empathy for other people’s dietary needs and a modicum of self control.

I am just saying that wing hog is not getting any more invites. They can find someone else to provide them with $50 worth of wings for a special diet they don’t require. Or more precisely, I don’t choose to feed someone that selfish ever again. Wing hog knew what they were doing. And yes, we provided plenty of things to meet the dietary needs wing hog said they had. So they had plenty to choose from. In addition they have an exhibited pattern of doing things just to get away with them.

We are quietly quitting relationships with people who are selfish. Relationships that give us a balled up feeling in the pit of our stomachs. And it feels amazing. I should have done this decades ago.

Also, and different people have different beliefs and experiences, but my ex marriage could have significantly benefited from deliberate no contact with people who did not treat us in ways we would want to be treated.

As an example of this, ex mil said that the reason exwh cheated on me was that I did not give him enough good sex. Btw she was a serial other woman. No marriage could survive that influence. My ex marriage didn’t.

I am a big fan now of surrounding myself with kind, caring, generous, emotionally-mature, empathetic people. And I am actively seeking out new friends who share my values. I am also not afraid to stop associating with family who exhibit selfish or exploitive tendencies. I would like to think that I have learned something from my awful experiences with infidelity.

I hope you get the treatment from others and the support you deserve.

"It's a slow fade...when you give yourself away" so don't do it!

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